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Thursday, March 22, 2007

Please Welcome Luis Rodriguez As A Guest Poster

I have taken the liberty to "deputize" Luis Rodriguez as a guest poster during our debate on illegal immigration. Please welcome him with open arms. Even though we vehemently disagree with each another on this issue, it doesn't mean we have to be disagreable.

7 Comments:

  • At 4:05 PM, Blogger Luis said…

    Thank you Allan...

    Continuing with our debate, and in response to your opening statement, I will answer with the following:

    Your first line is already a spot in which disagree. I dont believe immigration is the most important policy issue facing the U.S. Education, our economy, Social Security, the war in Iraq, are but a few issues I find a little more important.
    In any event, the 1986 amnesty program is soo old, I have little to no knowledge as to what President Reagan promised, so I will take your word for it. However, it is perhaps for the same reason, I described in my opening statement, no one really wants to tackle the issue, as you would like. Immigrants just bring too much to the U.S. Economy. According to the State of California Website, under labor, immigrants do not provide an inbalance in the states economy. In fact the only apsect in which the U.S. experiences a net loss according to the report is in Education.
    It is for this reason, I believe any rational politician will not do away with immigrants, as it could cause a destabilzation in the economy. Why do you suppose California is the 5th largest economy in the world?
    You have also mentioned the U.S. being a savior to other countries, and you feel the U.S. should not always play that role. I happen to agree but find it a little contradictory for the U.S. to meddle in other affairs selectively. Either way, I dont believe one can consider the U.S. being the all mighty and earning a sainthood with its actions towards immigrants. Here is what I mean by that. A person willing to assist or be the savior usually does so without getting anything in return. In the case of immigration, the U.S. receives Mexico's greatest export, cheap labor. The labor allows for providing the supply of goods and services the consumers of the U.S. ask for. While doing so, immigrants provide an additional boost to the already broken down Social Security System. In return, the immigrants gets an Education(or their offspring) and gets usually a below average wage.
    This ultimately seems like a great deal, doesn't it?
    Most anti-immgrant activists choose to use the false statement regarding the consumption of welfare, and other social services, however, as I pointed out from my source there is no evidence, other than in education, where the U.S. is losing money by having immigrants here.

     
  • At 10:24 PM, Blogger Agent Orange said…

    Allan,

    Luis just beat me to it.

    I have just returned from the ComLink meeting hoping to meet "up close and personally" the new SA council members.

    On the way back, I have realized that I would like to write about my experience without waiting until Socialists Luis, Claudio, Sean and Art write a crapola on that issue so I can debate them.

    I was gone ask you Allan if you would like me to be a guess poster.

    Looks like Luis announced at OJ that he will no longer post there because he is too busy, now he has platy of time moonlighting.

    -Stan

     
  • At 11:07 PM, Blogger Allan Bartlett said…

    Send me an email Stan.

     
  • At 10:19 AM, Blogger Luis said…

    Allan,
    If Stan participates, I will withdraw my initial request to debate.

     
  • At 10:37 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Allan,

    Do as you wish about allowing more "guest posters", but the debate was to be between you and Luis. Please don't muddy the waters by allowing another poster to participate.

    Morning Coffee

     
  • At 10:40 AM, Blogger Allan Bartlett said…

    Stan will be allowed to post comments just like anyone else during this debate, but I am going to keep the debate between Luis and I.

     
  • At 7:33 PM, Blogger Agent Orange said…

    Thanks Allan,
    You are true gentleman.
    -Stan

     

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